Montana Secession

It’s a source of never-ending amazement to me that some people seem to really, deeply care about the Second Amendment, similar to the way normal people care about the actually important parts of the Bill of Rights. So it’s pretty astounding to me that the Secretary of State for Montana is more or less threatening to secede if the Supreme Court upholds the D.C. handgun ban in D.C. v. Heller. Obviously, this won’t actually happen, but if it does it’d be pretty hilarious to see a Montana vs. Every Other State civil war. I have a bit of a soft spot for Big Sky Country, but oppose the Second Amendment regardless of interpretation (why yes, I do want to take your gun away), so it’d be a tough call on who to root for.

9 thoughts on “Montana Secession

  1. “It’s a source of never-ending amazement to me that some people seem to really, deeply care about the Second Amendment, similar to the way normal people care about the actually important parts of the Bill of Rights.”
    It’s all or nothing. The recklessness of this statement makes me thankful the only power you have is banging keys.
    Take any of the ten amendments of the Bill of Rights away and a precedent has been set that would in all likelihood end at you not even being able to exercise that power.
    Considering that you likely flunked any Government courses you’ve taken, I doubt you really understand this.

  2. It would hardly be a war between Montana and the rest of the union. Other states have similar contracts with the union that would allow for a legal secession. A second point: Each states governor acts as the “commander and chief” for that states National Guard. In fact the President of the US cannot send NG troops into battle without that state governor’s permission. There would surely be many siding with Montana like most every gun owner and those who know anything about the constitution and American history.

  3. It was intersting that I stumbled across this blog. I do not agree with the post calling you a traitor. The right to dissent is a cornerstone of our bill of rights. It was created with just that in mind. But every right in the Bill was designed to support another. Take one away, and the rest will fall.
    The Second ammendment is the force behind it all. It ensures that if a government should take away your right to free speech, or try to force a national religion, stifle the free press, etc, the citizens have the right to overthrow that Government by any means necessary. Hence the American Revolution, which allows you the freedom to write this blog.
    Besides, as was earlier stated, you have fallen into a common misconception that most Liberals seem to have. You think that people trying to uphold the 2nd ammendment are just a bunch of kooks trying to keep their guns. That is not the case. If they strip away the 2nd ammendmant, you are completely naive and stupid, if you think it will stop there.
    Next, rest assured, we would have no free press, and a shiny new national religion to keep you inline. What would you do then? Picket? Hold up a sign? Free speech would be easy after that. Go ahead write your congressmen, make a new sign. You get arrested for treason of some other bullshit. And how would we get rid of these tyrants(however well meaning they are)?
    The basis for all law states that no right shall infringe upon the rights of another. That makes an unjust law. My right to keep and bear arms (lawfully) I might add, does not affect you. If you chose not to exercise it , thats your right. But what gives you the right to tell me what my rights are?
    I am interested to hear your response.

  4. It was intersting that I stumbled across this blog. I do not agree with the post calling you a traitor. The right to dissent is a cornerstone of our bill of rights. It was created with just that in mind. But every right in the Bill was designed to support another. Take one away, and the rest will fall.
    The Second ammendment is the force behind it all. It ensures that if a government should take away your right to free speech, or try to force a national religion, stifle the free press, etc, the citizens have the right to overthrow that Government by any means necessary. Hence the American Revolution, which allows you the freedom to write this blog.
    Besides, as was earlier stated, you have fallen into a common misconception that most Liberals seem to have. You think that people trying to uphold the 2nd ammendment are just a bunch of kooks trying to keep their guns. That is not the case. If they strip away the 2nd ammendmant, you are completely naive and stupid, if you think it will stop there.
    Next, rest assured, we would have no free press, and a shiny new national religion to keep you inline. What would you do then? Picket? Hold up a sign? Free speech would be easy after that. Go ahead write your congressmen, make a new sign. You get arrested for treason of some other bullshit. And how would we get rid of these tyrants(however well meaning they are)?
    The basis for all law states that no right shall infringe upon the rights of another. That makes an unjust law. My right to keep and bear arms (lawfully) I might add, does not affect you. If you chose not to exercise it , thats your right. But what gives you the right to tell me what my rights are?
    I am interested to hear your response.

  5. I’m going to ignore the first three trolls; unless they have actual arguments to make other than “it’s a shiny 10-for-one package!” or “traitor traitor traitor”, there’s nothing to engage. Though, Jacob – the commander in chief of national guards is the President if he chooses to federalize them, as he would in the hysterically unlikely event of a Montana/US civil war.
    Pete – I agree that, in the 18th century, the 2nd amendment was probably a necessary defense against the reoccurrence of tyranny. But that was before the US became a stable republic and, more critically, before the emergence of international shipping made international arms trading possible. If the US fell to tyranny or occupation, we’d just ship Viktor Bout in to arm us, gun ban or no gun ban. Effective gun regulation is possible in inner cities and in normal, peacetime conditions, but in that kind of tumult, international shipments can’t be avoided. And trust me, I agree that violent resistance to tyranny is more than justified.

  6. To: Dylan Matthews
    Please read about how Hitler disarmed the Jews and other populations he repressed and killed. No one showed up with plane loads of arms for them. That was only 60 years ago, It can happen again. Read read and read, it is the only way you can see the patterns and reconize when history starts to repeat itself again. Watch the video Terror Storm on Google video, it will make you think.

  7. i think if Montana decides to go there will be traffic jams from all directions of free people coming to their defense. Texas governor has already mentioned secession, now Montana. Seems hussein is dividing our nation like the last president from illinois did. I would think a call to all freedom loving people in the americas would generate an outporing of support that would boggle your mind. There are alot of americans that believe in the constitution and do not believe in the major inner cities dictating law to everyone. There is a lot of support out there for someone to step up to the plate and lead the people to freedom again. Most of us are hung in states that are too socialist to stand up for freedom. There are alot of people from all the states that feel left out, not represented and opressed. A simple call to support would ignite a fire storm of people.

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